Or, Learn Parkour: An ADHD Podcast
OLP 030: You Have to Drink the Bong Water
In episode 30 of Or, Learn Parkour, let's talk about the infamous ADHD Tax! Join Jordan and Sylvie, as well as some friends from the internet, as they discuss the hidden costs of having ADHD, including but not limited to: whatever's in that one drawer in your fridge where broccoli goes to die, pricey car key replacements, and some dank healthcare alternatives.
Thanks for listening!
Referenced: ADHD Craft exchange: https://www.facebook.com/groups/346193566834222
CW/TW: Mental health, ADHD, explicit language, coughing noises, drug references, loud noises, yelling, rambling, singing, covid-19, mouth noises, garbled speech, discussion of eating food, discussions of the education system, mild bullying, ableism, suicidal ideation mention, squirting water sounds
Credits:
Cover art by: Krizia Perito
Theme: There Is A Dark Place
Socials:
Mental Health Resources:
thelovelandfoundation.org
opencounseling.com
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In episode 30 of Or, Learn Parkour, let's talk about the infamous ADHD Tax! Join Jordan and Sylvie, as well as some friends from the internet, as they discuss the hidden costs of having ADHD, including but not limited to: whatever's in that one drawer in your fridge where broccoli goes to die, pricey car key replacements, and some dank healthcare alternatives.
Thanks for listening!
Referenced: ADHD Craft exchange: https://www.facebook.com/groups/346193566834222
CW/TW: Mental health, ADHD, explicit language, coughing noises, drug references, loud noises, yelling, rambling, singing, covid-19, mouth noises, garbled speech, discussion of eating food, discussions of the education system, mild bullying, ableism, suicidal ideation mention, squirting water sounds
Credits:
Cover art by: Krizia Perito
Theme: There Is A Dark Place
Socials:
Mental Health Resources:
thelovelandfoundation.org
opencounseling.com
Start for FREE
Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.
There is a dark place, but I'm not going no, no, no, no. My way there is a dark place, but I'm not going. No, no, no. My way.
Speaker 2:Hi, I'm Jordan and I'm Sylvie. And this is or parkour. It's a podcast about ADHD sort of, but it, but it is done by two people who have ADHD. Definitely. We have been got on from the studio for a while over the holiday break, but we came back and wouldn't you ding, dang. Now it, the ADHD is still here. Yeah. You know, have you heard of this thing? Uh, new year's resolutions. So I decided to resolve or resolute resolution resolutely, resolve resolute to, to society.<laugh> I don't know. I don't know what the verb of that is, but I tried to, you know, be like, okay, this year I don't have ADHD. That's the resolution. I don't have it. That's absolutely how that works. But it's not cause kids who still has ADHD. What? Yeah. Is it you? Yeah. And come to find out there's this whole thing with resolutions where people don't ever do them. Mm. So maybe it has something to do with that. I'll try again next year. We'll see.<laugh>. So if it's like a classic resolution, you didn't have ADHD for like the first week and a half a of the year. Well, it's not true either.<laugh> no, I just, I think I, something tells me it wasn't the most medically or scientifically batched solution. Maybe not. I'll ask doing a podcast. Yeah. Welcome to 2022. Um, we're still here. You're still here. And we're glad about that. It may be pour out for the people who decided to stop listening to OLP in 2022. You're right. They're they're not listening to this. That's not our problem anymore. That's fair.<laugh> that's fair. Can pour your own ones out, man. You know what? Yeah. I'm gonna keep my eye drink in the cup. I'm gonna keep my Miller high life. All of myself. That's not true. It's dry, Jay. So yeah, I don't drink<laugh> yeah. Hell yeah. Keep your bong water in your, keep my bong water on me. Mm-hmm<affirmative> mm-hmm<affirmative> keep that B water on me pouring. None of that out. I mean, you know, there's some studies particular study actually that came out recently that, uh, really makes me think that the, uh, just build up of bong, water resin, sort of gross in my lungs and ESO passage and everything mm-hmm<affirmative> is, uh, maybe that's why I haven't gotten the coves yet. Could be scientifically beneficial to your health. And before you get like all party poopy and you're like, it's the compound in the plant that doesn't happen. But if you, it goes away as you eat it or you it's funny, you know what? Sometimes things can just be funny. Okay. Mm-hmm<affirmative> sometimes jokes can be jokes. Mm-hmm<affirmative> sometimes you don't need to add a caveat to every single thing you say. Have you thought of about the fact that that's a very, very, very poor use of communication skills,
Speaker 3:Especially here. Like this is bit city mm-hmm<affirmative> we're not here for science bitty.<laugh>
Speaker 2:You know, we're not here to give you advice. We're not here to give you any sort of insight or actual concrete tips and tricks on how to live with like mental illness or COVID it or anything. Okay. We are not experts. We are not doctors. We are not therapists. I do have a master's degrees with that. You do literally, who would know<laugh> who would know? I, I do.
Speaker 3:I do wanna give us a little bit of credit. I do wanna start 20, 22 with like a little bit of self kindness. I have been watching the new season of eye and say, sometimes we do have tips and tricks that are useful. Sometimes our experience can help other people, but the bit always comes first.
Speaker 2:The bit always comes. I was like, I don't know what, like yeah. Self kindness, for sure. But like for me, self kindness, mm-hmm<affirmative> is giving myself permission to care more about whether something's funny you. Yes.
Speaker 3:Yeah. No, that it is very, it is very funny that they were like, yeah, smoke weed every day. Don't get COVID. Yeah. Like that's bonkers.
Speaker 2:I know that. That's like absolutely what the study said.<laugh> and if you try to like cite the source on that, go yourself.
Speaker 3:Um, my God Sylvie. Did you like even read this paper? That's not what it says at all. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay. Seriously. Seriously goes away. Things can just be things you have to drink. The bong water jokes. Jokes are a thing. Like I am begging I'm begging. I know. Okay. And granite, uh, I don't mean that to be like ableist in the sense of like, sometimes it can be hard to tell if someone's joking. Right. It can be hard to tell mm-hmm<affirmative> oh yeah. Depending on what you've got going on in your brain and how you interact with the society around you, like, and no judgment whatsoever. But if you come into this, this sphere of, or learn park core, expecting anything, anything other than just pure icy, I don't know what to tell you. Go find some other boss podcast. So like, if you, how to live, like we're just here to be hashtag relatable. Sorry. Hashtag relatable. I did a little,
Speaker 3:They did the gesture. Yeah. The pound sign gesture, which definitely made a
Speaker 2:Little bit of a
Speaker 3:Yeah. Like that. Yeah. Mm-hmm<affirmative> gesturing. Gesturing is happening. So anyways,
Speaker 2:This is a podcast where we sometimes talk about ADHD. Things like usually like a 30 to 70 ratio
Speaker 3:And the 70% is just us kind of taking the out of each other.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So like, I guess that's our, that's our real start to 20, 22 is like
Speaker 3:Staying on brand. Yeah,
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. So this week though, we, we are gonna get a little angry. Yes. We are gonna get a little fired up. Yeah. Which is probably also really relatable right now. Yep. Judging by, by what I see on the internet every day. Mm-hmm<affirmative> being, being angry is part for
Speaker 3:The course. Um, yeah. If you need to like pause this podcast or like minimize the transcript, if you're reading along or whatever you need to do and go like scream into a pillow for a second.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Maybe do some like deep breathing.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I like to hit my bed with a bat when I'm mad. Yeah. Maybe go break some sticks. Mm-hmm
Speaker 2:<affirmative> we went ax throwing once. Oh, that was sick. That was during a calm period to clarify. We didn't go ax throwing like last week or anything. Yeah. Don't worry. We have been locked in our house since the holidays. Mm-hmm<affirmative> so, yeah. But Hey, guess what did you know that if you have ADHD or you know, this isn't just ADHD life costs money. It sure does. It shouldn't. It's what I, what I'll say my opinion. It shouldn't. Yeah,
Speaker 3:No, that's fair. But,
Speaker 2:Uh, it does mm-hmm<affirmative> and when you have, there are some hidden costs
Speaker 3:And some people call that the ADHD tax. Yeah. And I'm sorry I derailed you didn't I,
Speaker 2:No, I derailed my, I like, I knew what I was gonna say when I said yeah. And, and it literally just poofed<laugh>
Speaker 3:Just went away.
Speaker 2:I'm so sorry. I took my Adderall today. I don't know. I did take a nap.<affirmative> maybe it kind of like went through my system.
Speaker 3:Mm. You just napped it out. Mm-hmm<affirmative> oftentimes napping it out is a good thing. But in this case, maybe, yeah. I'm still a good thing. We're getting a very truthful experience right now.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah. No. I mean like, is this podcast edited for clarity?
Speaker 3:Yes. You might be surprised to learn. Yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, there's that bong resin coming back around too.
Speaker 2:I'm on like a very serious coughing regimen to make sure that the bong resin stays coded in my esophagus. Mm-hmm
Speaker 3:<affirmative> mm-hmm<affirmative>
Speaker 2:Such good.
Speaker 3:Wow. That was terrible. When I hurt my body to do why? Where
Speaker 2:Where's our awards. Where's our accolades. Okay. Actually though, I'm I'm just waiting for our podcast to get big enough to attract trolls and discourse. I'm just waiting. I am ready. Yeah. Like in my notes app, I have a whole note just dedicated to zingers.
Speaker 3:Oh good. I'm glad mm-hmm<affirmative>
Speaker 2:Is the top one as like an idea sort of response to someone being on Twitter to us, it is the top one. Like the top option. What
Speaker 3:Is it? Hold on. Let's set the scene here. Oh, okay. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, okay. Hold on.
Speaker 2:Get into improv mode. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. My body just sort like physically repulsed when I said
Speaker 3:That, um, I did appreciate the other day. One of my coworkers and I got to chatting and we're talking about college and I had mentioned that I was a theater person and completely wholeheartedly. Completely. Honestly, she goes, oh my gosh. That's amazing. Like that is so cool. Do you do stuff around here? Like if you are ever in a show around here, please let me know. I'd love to come see it. Unless it's improv.<laugh><laugh> she knew nothing about me and said that straight to my face and I respected so much.
Speaker 2:Yeah. No, that coworker can stay for sure. Yep. Yep.
Speaker 3:Yep. She can stay, they get it
Speaker 2:Uhhuh. Um<laugh>
Speaker 3:Anyway, so, so
Speaker 2:All right. Scene setting. Yes.
Speaker 3:I'm going to troll you. Okay. I'm gonna troll. Are you ready? I'm gonna troll you and then you can zing it back at me. No, I'm trying to get
Speaker 2:Into like my, you know, my girl
Speaker 3:Boss. Yes. And I'm, I'm gonna try and get gas, like
Speaker 2:Sort of like mentality here
Speaker 3:Or yes. Like connect to your inner truth. Mm-hmm<affirmative> and then just like, think back on a time. Yeah. That you've been girl boss and just like really connect to those given circumstances. Mm-hmm<affirmative> mm-hmm<affirmative> you can
Speaker 2:Probably tell a minute mm-hmm<affirmative> my aura is listening.
Speaker 3:It is. It's like mm-hmm<affirmative> choice. Thank you. All right. And so I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna be mean to you. Mm.
Speaker 2:Okay. I will accept that meanness. Okay.
Speaker 3:And I will. Yes. And amazing. I'm famously good at being mean. So like do brace yourself.
Speaker 2:Okay. You're famous for being mean mm-hmm<affirmative> you, you for sure. Yep. Like, especially between the two of us. I'm I'm definitely the nice sweet one.
Speaker 3:I'm I'm so a<laugh>
Speaker 2:Okay. Okay. Sorry. I lost it. I lost it. Okay.
Speaker 3:Be professional. I get back into it.
Speaker 2:I would like to say that it is kind of a point of pride for me that it is so hard to actually keep a girl boss sort of persona
Speaker 3:Going. Yeah. No, that is a point for that's you credit generally.
Speaker 2:Okay.<laugh> what team? What, what team? What? The game?<laugh> great. Audio. Um, sorry. I kind of just blacked out for a second. What,
Speaker 3:What I was gonna, I just kind of blacked out. Oh, we're
Speaker 2:Gonna do, I didn't really know what happened there. Um, I think
Speaker 3:We were gonna do like a scene and then something let's just do the scene. I don't know. Okay. I was weird. Yeah. No, I don't know what happened next. Okay. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna say something mean to you and then you're gonna girl boss me the next week. Okay. You ready? Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay. Wait. And so everyone imagined that this is on like Twitter Uhhuh, where, where most people try to be mean<laugh>
Speaker 3:Okay. Your podcast is not good.
Speaker 2:Thanks. I can't read. I'm sorry. There was more, no, cut you
Speaker 3:Off.<laugh> that was it. That was for the best. I will say it loses like a little bit of the fire behind it in an audio media. That's what I
Speaker 2:Would say. That's why I was like, imagine this is on Twitter. Here's the thing. If someone were to say something to me, face to face, I wouldn't have to grow boss or gatekeeper bay or Gaslight them. I would just punch them in the nuts. Hoof them. Just hoof
Speaker 3:Them. Oh, fun. Good. Hurt those nuts. Yeah. Mm-hmm
Speaker 2:<affirmative> yeah. Yeah. Well, thanks everyone. That was our very, very professional improvisational theater scene. Let's all go to the lobby. Let's all go to the lobby. Let's all go.<laugh>
Speaker 3:This is our podcast intermission. We will proceed with the content and act too. And I'll put some
Speaker 2:Elevator music here. I mean, we have licensed to most of Tom Rosenthal's music, right? Cuz out like a thing. Yeah. So like we just start playing booty delicious<laugh> oh yeah. If y'all haven't taken the time to go listen to Tom Rosenthal, the artist who does our intro and outro song.<laugh> first of all, bad choice on your part, like bad call, go listen to him right now. Like please. But also guy, we, we like Tom Rosenthal. We love Tom Rosenthal. Yeah. Like not in a weird way though. Like we haven't ever met him. So like
Speaker 3:We respect Tom Rosenthal's art. Yeah. Very deeply. And our interactions with him have been very kind. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yes. Great.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Rosenthal. Hope you have a nice day. If not, that's also like, okay. You can do whatever you want with him. Your,
Speaker 2:If you wanna have like a bad day, like you are absolutely like yeah. Had a bad day. Hey, come on down. You sing a sad song. Just a time. Turn it around. I'm vocally trained. Um<laugh>
Speaker 3:Hi,
Speaker 2:Yikes. But actually Tom Rosenfeld did a cover of bootylicious. Oh, it's very good. And it's so good. I say that like it's news like this covers, but out for years,<laugh> I would recommend watching the music video as well. If you were able mm-hmm<affirmative> mm-hmm<affirmative> it's on YouTube one day. I hope that our podcast gets big enough that people listen back to this episode and Tom Rosenthal just keeps getting like a weird spike in views on that video.
Speaker 3:It's like a win for everyone involved.<laugh> Cause like glad to bring attention to his work. But I'm also glad for like everybody who gets to
Speaker 2:Watch that video. It's so good. I just, Mr. Rosenthal, if you ever do listen to our podcast, sorry. That's part one. I'm sorry. Part two. I could listen to you think, but my body is two boos for your babe. Like I could listen to your weird little Muppet voice sink. Whoa, win a nice way. Like sometimes he just has that British a affectation that they<laugh> like, no, you know like when you listen to Mumford and sons and they're singing like, ah, like just it's like I'm gonna please. Don't we have a bathroom, like 20 feet from us go. Okay. Okay. Sorry. Do have an episode for you this week. Oh
Speaker 3:Yeah. No. This episode did have a topic.
Speaker 2:ADHD tax. We even asked you all on Twitter. Give us some, some, uh, or to give us some like, like
Speaker 3:What you experience of the ADHD tax your insight there. And we appreciate you guys who responded. We got some really great answers. Yeah. Thank you
Speaker 2:So much. I love that. We get to talk about it
Speaker 3:Now. Yeah. We should probably do that now.<laugh>
Speaker 2:Yeah, no. So weird to like, just like all of your responses to the tweets mm-hmm<affirmative> and then like, not be able to say anything cuz like, well we're gonna talk about it on the podcast so we shouldn't reply, right. Yeah. Right.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I don't know if you were sad that we didn't respond to you. I'm so
Speaker 3:Sorry. We love you very much. I love you so much and
Speaker 2:Appreciate not in a weird way though. Cause we've never met. We, we
Speaker 3:Respect you for those of you we've interacted with. We've had very kind interactions,
Speaker 2:You know? Yeah. You know? Okay. So constantly, constantly, just, just really trying to be relatable, but not build up parasocial relationships that are unhealthy, you know? Mm-hmm<affirmative> love you. Ah, okay. So, um,
Speaker 3:Well wait, okay. Hold on. Should we like talk about what the ADHD tax
Speaker 2:Is first we will talk about yeah. Let's talk about what, what it is and then we'll get to we're
Speaker 3:Closer to Canada. So that's true. Also like apparently at least what I learned in French class, people in France friends still say way. It just means like yeah. Instead of yes. Like why
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm<affirmative> interesting. Mm-hmm
Speaker 3:<affirmative> okay. I don't know. I took three years of French and then promptly forgot at all. So yeah. For those of you who know more than me, let us, yeah. I took
Speaker 2:Two years of French and two years of Spanish. So I also know nothing<laugh> um,
Speaker 3:Anyway, so the ADHD tax yeah. Is when it costs money because you have ADHD. Yeah. Like extra money.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And that doesn't just mean like cost of meds. Yeah. Like it's not specifically it usually ADHD tax is in reference to money that you have to pay as a result of symptoms of your ADHD. Mm-hmm<affirmative> mm-hmm<affirmative> that are unexpected.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm<affirmative> it can also involve like the costs of medication and stuff, because I can get into the studies later, but like that's expensive and it's more money than someone doesn't have ADHD would have to pay. And there's also like job related things where if your ADHD affects your job and you earn less like overall people with ADHD do earn less money than they're equally qualified peers because of those kind of things. So like that's also part of it. But yeah, generally, and in a more practical way, I think of like the things that you fix more easily, I guess like what you were saying is like the, the things that you have to spend money on because of how
Speaker 2:You've, here's the way I've been sort of viewing it and understanding it is that like meds wouldn't be included in the ADHD tax because that's just an ADHD cost. Gotcha. Like that's just sort of the basic like, oh, like you have ADHD. So there is a cost of medication mm-hmm<affirmative> like there is with any sort of medical treatment, it costs money cuz we do live in the United States. So it'll cost some money. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Like today too much money. I just paid$40 to schedule an appointment for somebody to tell me what I know, which is that my meds are working and I should be allowed to have more of them. Mm-hmm<affirmative> mm-hmm<affirmative> mm-hmm<affirmative> I have an insurance, so that's a better deal. And it could be, but I still paid$40 to take the time out of my day for somebody to say, yeah, you still need'em you still have ADHD anyways, famous
Speaker 2:Short term mental illness. Mm-hmm
Speaker 3:<affirmative><laugh> you know how mental illnesses usually work. Yeah. But yeah. So do we wanna give some examples? Yeah. So
Speaker 2:I was gonna say like what I personally understand to be ADHD tax are things that, like we said, are things that you don't foresee having to pay for mm-hmm<affirmative> like I see everything being an ADHD tax, like how things are like the pink tax or the fat tax mm-hmm<affirmative> where you're just existing as a part of a group that you've been assigned because of the way that you look or raised or whatever, or your brain works or you know, you know, how, how society does all us. Like, so that makes sense too. And like considering that like the ADHD tax. Yeah. But I think for our purposes in this episode specifically, if that's fair to say, we're talking more about like the hidden costs of ADHD. Yeah. So, uh, and a lot of people gave examples of their own that were less monetary cost mm-hmm<affirmative> and more like mental, emotional health cost. Yeah. Which is I think so valid.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And there's overlap too there. I think mm-hmm,<affirmative> like if you're spending more energy and time, then otherwise, then you're gonna have to make up for that somewhere else. Yeah. Because we
Speaker 2:Live in a stupid society Uhhuh<affirmative> um, with some examples. Yes. A great one mm-hmm<affirmative> is a personal anecdote. Mm-hmm<affirmative> from the past like month or so. Uh, where I lost my key mm-hmm<affirmative> my car key. And you may be wondering, do you mean your keys Sylvie? Like you lost your keys? No. I had my keys. I knew exactly where those were. They were on the hook mm-hmm<affirmative> where they always are. Went down to get in my car, pulled my keys out and realized that the car key is not on my key ring. And so it turns out I lost my key and I can't drive to work. So it was a very expensive week because I had to, uh, at least that first day grab like a ride share to work mm-hmm<affirmative>, which costs way more than public transport. But I was already like, if I took public transport, I would be like an hour late because I didn't plan to take public transport. Cause I thought I had my keys Uhhuh. Well, I did have my keys, I just have my car for, so, you know, and then I had to, uh, go through the whole mental breakdown of like, how the did I just lose my car key mm-hmm<affirmative> um, and Jordan did watch is I literally turned over every single thing in my room. Mm-hmm<affirmative> trying to find this key, turned over everything in the common areas of our house, trying to find this key mm-hmm<affirmative> this key was nowhere. It was in the wind mm-hmm<affirmative> I, I checked the garage, I checked our yard. I checked the sidewalk from the garage to the house. Like I check everywhere. Yeah. That
Speaker 3:was in a different dimension.
Speaker 2:Literally. It was in a different dimension. And so I had to get a new key for my car because when she believe it, I've lost my car keys before. So I was already on my second key. I think I'm assuming cuz my parents didn't have the second set. So I, I think I did just have to, yeah. Anyways, I don't remember.<laugh> had my car for a while. Yeah. But had to go through the whole process of paying for ride share mm-hmm<affirmative><affirmative> to work mm-hmm<affirmative> and then paying for public transport, which is cheap in Chicago, thankfully. So that wasn't too bad. But taking out a ton of time in my day mm-hmm<affirmative> because it's like an hour to an hour and a half commute because my office is only like a 25 minute drive from here. But if you're from Chicago, you know, that getting from the north side to the west side is apparently just like impossible mm-hmm<affirmative> if you don't have a car. Yeah. Um, so that was frustrating to say the least mm-hmm<affirmative> and then I had to get a new key made and then the, the person who came and like reset my key. Cause I have like a, the key fob thing to unlock it. So they had to like, basically like Aune it to my car, like some sort of fancy D and D weapon. I was like, Jesus Christ. It took like an hour and this guy was very nice. Mm-hmm<affirmative> he's very, very kind. And like he was super understanding and like he threw in like an extra key that didn't have any of the buttons on it, but would still unlock my car so that if I lock my keys in my car, I at least have a second thing to like unlock my car. Oh nice. Um, and he threw that in for free, but the whole process still cost four high hundred dollars. Yikes. So like I don't make very much money. So that's like a quarter of my paycheck. Mm-hmm<affirmative> essentially for the month, uh, just for a new car key. So<laugh> things like that. Yep. Would be, I think considered ADHD tax. The key did show up eventually in the bathroom. Trash can, which is a little step step on it. Lid thing. Mm-hmm<affirmative> so I, how, how, yeah, I don't
Speaker 3:How, no, I don't understand. I mean, I do wanna give you a little bit of credit. Yes. That is ADHD tax. Like there's a lot of factors involved there. Yes. Yeah. But that key was just a little
Speaker 2:Like that key just left. Yeah. That key ran away. Yeah. Like, so at least now I have three keys for my car. There you go. So like great. But also like there's a classic example. Like having to replace your keys when you lose them.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Just lost money you weren't expecting to. And the time you weren't expecting to, like, I did not the same thing, cuz I don't have a car, but like three weeks ago I had an appointment scheduled at a doctor's office on the left side, which is famously difficult to get to mm-hmm<affirmative> but I was who took my insurance. I was gonna take the bus down there. Lost track of time match, ended up having to call a ride, share, got down there, realized that I miswrote the appointment time. So the office was closed and I could not even go to my appointment. And then when I was trying to catch the bus back, my phone died and my venture card, the, to pay for transit is on my phone. So that was 30 bucks for a ride share. Plus having to like go to Walgreens and buy a portable charger in a new accord. So like another 30 bucks and then another, I, I was just exhausted at that point. So I just called another ride home instead of taking the bus for an hour and a half.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Which is so valid. But
Speaker 3:Again, not money I was expecting to spend. No.
Speaker 2:And you know, like we, we are okay. Mm-hmm<affirmative> like we are able to pay our rent and get food mm-hmm<affirmative> and like provide for our cats. Mm-hmm<affirmative> like, I won't say that we're horribly off. Cuz there are a lot of people who are mm-hmm<affirmative> and like, you know, that sucks big time. Uh, yeah. But like I, I recognize that, you know, if anything bad were to happen to either one of us mm-hmm<affirmative> we are able to like take care of one another. So I, I recognize that like we do have it better than a lot of people. Yeah. But we're still not like we're we're not doing good.
Speaker 3:Not rolling in it by any means. No. And so
Speaker 2:It's cost happen. It's devastating. Yeah. Like it's truly like, not just like a day ruiner, but like a week or month ruiner. Yeah. Because money mm-hmm<affirmative> is like the, apparently the only thing that matters to our society. Yeah. And it is the easiest thing to burn mm-hmm<affirmative> especially when you have ADHD, some less high stake sort of examples. Cuz if that stressed you out, I'm sorry. We try to keep this podcast like not low stress, but lower stress. Yeah. Not like heavy. Yeah. We try to avoid that most of the time. Yeah. Most of the
Speaker 3:Time, but sometimes it's frustrating and you just wanna be angry about it. Yeah. Cause it sucks. Sometimes
Speaker 2:It just sucks. Like sometimes it's just bad, but uh, some Tamer examples would be like having wasted a lot of money on produce that you forget about mm-hmm<affirmative> cause you put it in a CRISPR drawer and it, you can't see it. So your brain just kind of is like, it doesn't exist. Mm-hmm<affirmative> or
Speaker 3:I like, I have the experience all the time of I'll like buy food cuz I know I need to eat and then will not be able to eat it because I Adderall.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Or you're like me and sometimes you are like, you know what, I'll get some food and then you get all your groceries and you're like, all of this sounds absolutely disgusting and horrifying mm-hmm<affirmative> and I don't want any of it near my mouth mm-hmm<affirmative>. And so you order takeout instead, which I think that's less ADHD and more just like a human thing. Um, I could be wrong. That is ADHD. I okay. But there are, there are a lot of things that are just, you know, being a human mm-hmm<affirmative>
Speaker 3:Um, forgetting to cancel subscriptions.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Oh God. That's a big one. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Um, I feel like I end up buying just like a lot of odds and ends that I forget that I already have mm-hmm<affirmative>
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm<affirmative> oh, uh, I think some people gave this example on Twitter too. Mm-hmm<affirmative> but like all the money that we spend on things to like make or put together, like the project Uhhuh, the project money mm-hmm<affirmative> or like you order something based on like a very specific and niche hyper fixation that you're deep in one week mm-hmm<affirmative> and then it arrives the next week and you're like, what? I don't I'm not even into this hobby anymore.<laugh>
Speaker 3:Yeah. I think that was Cal. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I feel like we've kind of, at least for the purposes of this episode, kind of gotten a, a base level of like that's what ADHD tax is. I hope so. I mean, well, okay. Again from our limited view and limited expertise. Yeah.
Speaker 3:But we're here to be hashtag relatable, right? Yeah. Hashtag relatable.
Speaker 2:Um,
Speaker 3:There's that gesturing noise again.
Speaker 2:So on that note, on
Speaker 3:That note, Cal, I felt called out by everything you posted as somebody who just bought a countertop dishwasher mm-hmm<affirmative>
Speaker 2:And then, oh no.
Speaker 3:Oh this one bought a new faucet because I didn't check to see if it would connect to our faucet. Cuz I got so excited. Mm-hmm<affirmative> which to
Speaker 2:Be fair, the idea of not having to do the dishes
Speaker 3:Euphoric. Yeah. And the fact that there is a connector or like every single type of faucet that came with this, but our landlord is so cheap that the aerator that you're supposed to be able to remove and replace with the plugin is just like glued into the faucet head. It's fine. Also definitely read your tweet, gout about working off the clock to make up for time. You were distracted during the day, while I was working off the clock to make up for time. I was distracted during the day. So
Speaker 2:Yeah. Let's just let them speak for themselves. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Let it, how does that feel? Okay. Mm-hmm<affirmative> so Cal we'll start with you since we're, you know, yelling at you currently for just these severely targeted attacks. But at Cal underscore Powell says the amount of times I've worked off the clock to make up for time. I was distracted during the day or worked off the clock to finish a project in an impressive amount of time. So I don't look like I have ADHD. Um, yeah, yeah, yeah. The real, real one that got me was the like putting in a lot of effort to a project when no one else is watching mm-hmm<affirmative> cuz I'm like, this is taking me so long and everyone else is already done and theirs all look really cool. And so I need to work extra hard to make sure that mine is even on like par with, I need
Speaker 3:To justify the extra time that I took. Yes. I need to use my time like a neurotypical<laugh> mm-hmm<affirmative>
Speaker 2:Oh yes. Okay. Uh, Cal also said this one isn't so serious, but the amount of times I've bought the supplies for a project or hobby, but never actually gotten around to doing the project. Ow. I
Speaker 3:Also, I do wanna say on that note, there is, uh, we're not like affiliated with we're sponsored by this group, but they're very cool and very helpful. There is a Facebook group online. If you're on Facebook, that's specifically like an ADHD craft exchange for people with ADHD who buy craft supplies that they're not gonna use anymore. And you can like trade them with other people who have done the same thing. So we'll put a link to that
Speaker 2:Doing dare I say the Lord's work.
Speaker 3:Amen. Yeah. So we'll share a link to that. If you
Speaker 2:Like a SAR very much in the same boat. Mm-hmm<affirmative> mm-hmm<affirmative> cow also talks about getting a countertop dishwasher. Mm-hmm<affirmative> because of hand washing dish hard hand washing dish touch on that sucks. It's just makes your hands dry. Mm-hmm<affirmative> just makes your hands so dry. Um, Maddie friend of the family.<laugh>
Speaker 3:Pretty much yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Not in a weird way, but like I love you mad.
Speaker 3:We respect you and our interactions with you have been pleasant,
Speaker 2:Such a good, like that's such a good way to like just one of us sits in with the like I love you. And then the other one sort of is like, but like to clarify, like not, not really, not like that. I don't know. One of my friends in college used to call me and I love you<laugh> oh my God. Well, cause I say it to like everybody all the time. I don't know. Like I don't think that's
Speaker 3:A bad thing. I don't either.<laugh> I realize, I need to clarify for like internet purposes, but like yes, daddy, we love you.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Like I literally play D and D on zoom, like every other week with some friends and at the end of it, I'm always like, okay, love you, bye. Like, and then I hang up and everyone's just like, bye<laugh>. And I'm like I do though. I just have a lot of love in my heart. Well,
Speaker 3:If they don't love feedback, they're stupid. Well, they do. I know, but
Speaker 2:Like, like let's to clarify, I think a lot of those people also listen to the podcast and like, I know that you, you back, but I also am sorry if I put you on the spot or make you feel uncomfortable by how often I say, I love you<laugh> cause I, you know, it's fair. Not everyone grows up saying that. Yeah. Saying, yeah. Yeah. Cuz like, I, I know like for some people that is like such a weighted term mm-hmm<affirmative> not just like for internet purposes. Yeah. And for that, like, sorry, but I do think my whole vibe is a little camp counselor.<laugh> in the sense of like, I'm just gonna say really positive, aggressively loving. Mm-hmm<affirmative> and like just accept it. It's fine. So Maddie that's uh, at Maddie 2, 4, 6 0 1 didn't ever notice the number there. It's good. It's good. Sorry. I said it out loud and I was like, why does that sound wait God
Speaker 3:Maddie. 2, 4, 6 0 1.<laugh>
Speaker 2:Like, I try so hard to hide it. I try so hard to hide like the fact that I am still technically a theater kid, you know, like I didn't get a BFA, but like ouch. So Maddie said I've gotten so many parking tickets at school because I forgot to get my parking pie asked before the cutoff in all four years of going to college. I think I've gotten eight. And the only reason it's that low is because my last two years haven't required parking passes due to COVID. Ooh. Yeah. We both had cars in college. Yeah. So
Speaker 3:That's a, yeah. I don't know how there is not like a municipal building in Moscow dedicated to me for how much I see handedly funded the city budget through Jackson street, parking lot tickets mm-hmm<affirmative> I had to work there.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I remember when I went to Taylor, the amount of times that I would park like on the loop, just on the side of the like little loop road that goes around campus mm-hmm<affirmative> cause I would be like, oh yeah, I'm just gonna do something and then come right back into my car and then I'll go park, like in one of the parking lots. Mm-hmm<affirmative> the amount of times that I would just forget. And as my car would be just like out parked on the curb and then I'd wake up and be like, oh, my car's parked on the curb and then I'd go and I'd be like, how did campus security get like, it's like 8:00 AM on a Saturday morning. How are you ready? Mm-hmm<affirmative> how did you know mm-hmm<affirmative> which like granted, I guess they're like, yeah, look at these idiots. Parking their cars on a Friday night, all wrong.
Speaker 3:<laugh> I definitely forgot that I drove to school at all some days, cuz I lived close enough to walk, but if I was in a rush or like had a bunch of stuff to carry or was tired, like I often was mm-hmm<affirmative> I would drive, but sometimes I would walk or I would park my car on campus and then I have to like walk to work or walk to the grocery store or something afterwards. And it was definitely faster to walk to the grocery store than like walk to my car and then drive to the grocery store. And then I just be like, yeah, well it's an easy walk home from main street. And I just forget that my car was on campus until I got home.<laugh> it's fun. It's great. It's a great way to end a very long day. Yeah
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm
Speaker 3:<affirmative> yeah. We've got some other tweets, some great responses. We've got a tweet from LBO Bains at Zappas Marie.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I mean I'll be honest Caris. Uh, this is my friend Caris from college. I don't know. I don't know how to pronounce your, your handle. So I, I did tell Jordan, I was like, I always say Zappas Marie in my head, but it is X a P I S Marie also though. Lesbos. What a good
Speaker 3:It's it delights the every time I see it in our Twitter. What a good name notifications. Just so you cars. That's very funny. Beara said the fact that people have resources for people with ADHD, but they're behind a paywall or the things that tend to help outside of meds are costly. Why can't I get a prescription for tools I need that help me be productive. That's a great question.
Speaker 2:That's such a good question. And, and Iles boat Bains. Good
Speaker 3:Question. Mm-hmm<affirmative> and that might be a full nother episode at some point. No promises, no promises, but that, that is a thing, uh, of those things being,
Speaker 2:I say no promises. Cause we might forget.
Speaker 3:We may. We very well may forget, but it would be a good episode if we did it. Mm-hmm<affirmative> anyways. Yeah. Tools for ADHD are expensive and they're just as necessary as medication mm-hmm<affirmative> but the healthcare system in this country sucks so much,
Speaker 2:But yeah. Well, and it's like one of those things where like, even when you are talking about how you have to have an appointment for each Adderall refill mm-hmm<affirmative> it's controlled substance mm-hmm<affirmative> and it's like, you have to pay each time you have to pay to get, you have to pay mm-hmm<affirmative> to be able to pay for meds mm-hmm<affirmative> and get them mm-hmm<affirmative> like there's literally just so many steps. Mm-hmm<affirmative> just give me the stinky little drug that makes my stinky little brain more go faster, go like, go, go clearer, go it all. Yeah.<laugh> yeah, go it all clearly you can tell by the way that I just said words minus very much wearing off Uhhuh<affirmative>
Speaker 3:I, I will find who said this cuz I can't remember their name. I at this point, but somebody on Twitter, I read this like two days ago said whoever designed ADHD accommodations it's like they learned the symptoms of ADHD and made a very targeted obstacle course. And I felt that deep in my soul.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Even more reason for, for actually neuro divergent people to work on how best to help neuro divergent people mm-hmm<affirmative> sure would be nice. Mm-hmm<affirmative> that'd be nice. It would be nice.<laugh>
Speaker 3:Might
Speaker 2:Be nice. I think we got one more here. Yeah. We
Speaker 3:Have a tweet from another wonderful person. Ben has ADHD
Speaker 2:Again with the name. Love it. Choice. Clear, concise to the point. We know what you're about. The branding
Speaker 3:Is on point mm-hmm<affirmative> at ADHD underscore Ben, love it. Consistency. The SEO is strong.
Speaker 2:Uh, that's a compliment. It is. It sounded kind of. Heady marketing, but Jordan's. Heady marketing. Yeah. Jordan's defense they're. Heady marketing for work. I said that was so much love. No. Yeah, yeah. And like a hundred percent in the like I used to do marketing. Yeah, I do.
Speaker 3:I do appreciate that at the very least SEO isn't like telling people to buy things. It's kind of targeting people who are already trying to buy things. So I feel like not shady about it or like
Speaker 2:Less shady about it. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah. But then has ADHD shared cost of paying for mail forwarding after moving? Because I keep forgetting slash postponing changing my address for all important stuff. Yeah. Mm-hmm<affirmative> mm-hmm
Speaker 2:<affirmative> mm-hmm<affirmative> similar vein. Yeah. I went to pay for gas and I used a card that I don't use very often in my defense mm-hmm<affirmative> but I used a card that I haven't used very often and I've lived in Chicago for three years now and it was like enter the zip code. And so I put in my Chicago zip code and it's like error, wrong zip code. And I had never changed my bank account, zip code for like, I have like two cards through this bank. The zip code was still my zip code for Idaho. Okay. And this was like a couple weeks ago and I was like, oops,
Speaker 3:I haven't done that one quite as much. Cuz I feel like that's at least like a little bit in sort of the exciting tasks of moving of like I'm setting up all my stuff. Not exciting that I love calling banks exciting. Like
Speaker 2:Moving to a new place. Yes. Okay. I was like, okay. Yeah. The exciting like for, for the spirit of the pot cast, like hell yeah bro. I'm on board. I'm with you. But like in internally I was like, what are you talking about? You mean that's
Speaker 3:Fair, stop this. If you didn't know, nobody else could have, if you know what I mean? There's like a 50% chance that anyone else would know what I mean. So if you didn't ever I'd screwed. Just screwed. So I so valid besty. Thanks besty. But anyways, so I, I haven't had that specific problem as much, but the number of times I have like accidentally shipped something to the wrong address because I have like multiple addresses in my like apple pay or account for X, Y, Z website. And I'm just like reading too fast. Mm-hmm<affirmative> mm-hmm<affirmative> I definitely shipped like all of my skincare that I just purchased to my office
Speaker 2:Like two weeks ago. Ah yeah. That was so recent. Mm-hmm<affirmative> yeah. So you see the amount of like yeah. I feel you been unnecessary money, time, energy mm-hmm<affirmative> tears, lots of tears. So much car like literally Jordan walked over, saw me just like sobbing, trying to find my car key. And in my defense$400 is so much money.
Speaker 3:That's a lot of money. That's so
Speaker 2:Much money. Yeah. That sucked like, oh my God, this isn't even to say like the cost of the guilt and shame<affirmative> it doesn't feel good. Like of having to deal with the ADHD tax mm-hmm<affirmative> because the way that our society works, it's like you have to spend money to live mm-hmm<affirmative>. But if you're not spending your money, quote unquote the right way mm-hmm<affirmative> then you deserve to die and it's like, great. Yeah, I'm doing so well. And I'm absolutely not just hanging on by a couple threads. Mm-hmm<affirmative>
Speaker 3:Okay. It's so frustrating. Like especially when you have to do all of the extra work of like rebudgeting and like realizing the things that you're like gonna miss out on because you don't have that money or that time, or like, but if it's been a long time and you haven't had to do something like that in a while, you're like, I was doing so good. Like, and I up that
Speaker 2:Doesn't feel good. Yeah. Which like, yeah. Thank you so much for like sharing your experience with like unexpected costs of ADHD, by the way, if we didn't say that earlier, thank you. We appreciates you appreciates you so much, but also like just like a blanket sort of like I'm so sorry if you aren't someone who responded to the tweet and you like are thinking of your own instances of like yeah, I do that. Yeah. I<laugh> like mm-hmm<affirmative><laugh> I do that, but like crying mm-hmm<affirmative> like, I'm so sorry. Like it just sucks. Like it, it just sucks. Like society, as, as it's built, currently is not for us. Mm-hmm<affirmative> and it should be, it should be like we're humans. Mm-hmm<affirmative> I mean, you think about how, like, this is just specific to ADHD. There are so many things that people who are neuro divergent and disabled have to pay for to
Speaker 3:Just be alive, just
Speaker 2:To exist. And it's like, you know, again, trying not to get too heavy and I'm sure that you're all alive and this, you know, if you're listening to this you're alive. So you know what the news mm-hmm<affirmative> is like right now. And you know, the rhetoric mm-hmm<affirmative> that is been around, but is very front and center mm-hmm<affirmative> currently about, you know, how society still views anybody who's disabled. So we wanted to kind of do this episode of like, uh, it's topical, but it's uh, you know, like we make jokes and stuff, but like truly like you don't deserve this. Yeah. Like life could be so much better. Yeah. If you're an optimist, life can be so much better and there are ways to sort of mitigate, help yourself, stay away from these costs. If you're like me, the shame that you feel of doing something. So horrible usually is enough to at least last a couple years, but that's not a fun or happy way to go about living. Yeah. So like there are some more practical like quote unquote tips. Mm-hmm<affirmative> again, we're not experts, but like we did find some things that cool people on the internet have shared. Yeah. We're crowdsourcing here. Mm-hmm<affirmative> and sort of trying to compile list of things that might help sort of mitigate those hidden costs. Yeah. If not, just to make it a little, just a little bit easier to live in this LCAP. Mm-hmm<affirmative> that we are living in currently. Mm-hmm<affirmative> all the same. Like I'm sorry. Like none of us deserve this. Yeah. And like, it just sucks. Just sucks. Just sucks. Rich just sucks. Real bad. So on that super happy note, what are your tips? I don't know why. I just immediately went to like, well, I got some brisket tips cooked in the oven and uh, you, your brisket let's end this podcast right now. No, I don't. I'm sorry. I did cook up the rest of the meatballs for the spaghetti though. Oh, so we got that. Mm. But ADHD tax tips, ADHD tax tips. I say we compile a list. We have like a handful of things that we're gonna throw at you and see if that keep it bite size. Mm-hmm<affirmative> just see if it sticks<laugh> again, first and foremost. It's about the bit, love you all. Sorry. We're going through it. We don't have anything helpful to say, but<laugh>. Yeah. So, you know, take these all with a grain of salt. These are just things that have either helped us or are things that we think hopefully will help us in the future. Sure. Mm-hmm<affirmative> cause while doing research for this episode, I feel like we both saw some things. We were like that's okay. Yeah. Okay. All right. Give it a go mm-hmm<affirmative> um, so my number one thing mm-hmm<affirmative> is tough if you don't have friends. And I say that in a, like, if you don't have someone who you're close to, who can help you with your finances mm-hmm<affirmative>. And by that, I mean, find someone who you are comfortable enough with to look at your finances and help you like sort through those, if you need to mm-hmm<affirmative> because I have a very dear friend who helped me go through and like, look at how much I was spending on subscriptions and like how to schedule out my payments. Mm-hmm<affirmative> in a way that's like sustainable and matches up with a paycheck schedule mm-hmm<affirmative> and kind of helps to mitigate the like. I forgot that my Netflix payment was gonna hit on the 12th and mm-hmm<affirmative> now I'm overdrawn. Cause I didn't plan for that like 1399 to be in my budget for that week before I get paid. So that'd be my tip. Yeah. My number one tip is to find somebody who can like, if you're into like Google docs, Google sheets, I don't know. Mm-hmm<affirmative> like, have someone help you make a budget and a spreadsheet mm-hmm<affirmative> someone who is going to be kind mm-hmm<affirmative> and objective mm-hmm<affirmative> but also like not shame you. Yeah. Cause I know that that's at least for me a big fear with other people seeing my finances yeah. Is like that innate sort of like I'm not necessarily bad at spending money. My brain just forgets about costs. Yeah. So I end up being bad with money<laugh> yeah. And so it's embarrassing and like very big shame, guilt feelings, right. Mm-hmm<affirmative> of like needing to have someone help you with that. But if you have someone that you trust who is going to be kind and helpful in that situation, mm-hmm<affirmative>, that's like my number one tip is like, it's okay to ask for help. I think in the situation. Cause like, at least for me, I'm not super great at math. I'm not good at like standing and guesstimating numbers and budgeting mm-hmm<affirmative> mm-hmm<affirmative> so I just asked a lovely dear friend to help me with it. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Well like accountability, like across the board is a good ADHD tool. It's like a body double. Yeah. So I'm sure that you could apply that to, you know, if your problem is that you have a hard time remembering when those costs come up or if your problems that you have a hard time remembering you have food in the fridge, like get someone who's good at meal prep to come look at your process and show you how to make it a little bit easier or get somebody who is good at sewing to come help you finish all of those projects that have been sitting in the corner, you know, make a craft day of it. Just like get a body in there to like bring some expertise and bring some accountability that, yeah, that's a great idea. That seems like it would have a lot of applications.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I will say the word accountability is like one of my least favorite things. Okay. Dually noted. Well, no, just like in the sense of like, and this is completely my own baggage growing up in a Christian environment, ah, accountability is usually just a way to control people. Oh yeah. No that's and, and that's fair. So accountability and like a space of like grace and kindness. Awesome. Totally different. Yeah. Awesome. Yeah. So just wanna clarify. That's what we're talking about when we say accountability here. Yes. Because that can be a very loaded term of like what it means to hold someone accountable. Yeah.
Speaker 3:That's super fair. That's a super fair caveat, I guess. I mean more like support. Yeah.
Speaker 2:No, that clarification was a like, yes, you're so correct. But for the people like me, especially cuz I know, I know some of y'all Taylor university people with smartest podcast. So I know that you probably have some similar experiences to me with that word. Mm-hmm
Speaker 3:<affirmative> mm-hmm<affirmative> that's super fair. Thank you very much for clarifying that because I don't thank you very
Speaker 2:Much, so much for saying it.
Speaker 3:People to think that I'm gonna be like them. You need to send me your internet history so I can shame you about it. Accountability. Yeah. No that's
Speaker 2:No shame. Yeah, no. I mean it, it, no shame allowed here. Hopefully our brand is clear enough<laugh> that? No one took it that way. I didn't take it that way. Cool. It was just my own sort of like no
Speaker 3:Valid,
Speaker 2:Like someone's like, yeah, we need to start an accountability circle and I'm like guns<laugh> I have guns knife.
Speaker 3:Knife.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So anyways, yeah. So my first tip have just, just ask, ask for help. Yeah. There is no shame in that at all. Mm-hmm<affirmative> um, like if you need help, you need help. And that's like, okay. And we are communal creatures. Yeah. And this sort of individualism sort of thing that we've just sort of had going on for a while because of Western society and colonialism, it's not good.
Speaker 3:Like it's not sustainable.
Speaker 2:It's not sustainable at all in like all senses of the word mm-hmm<affirmative> so yeah, no shame in asking people for help. Mm-hmm<affirmative> uh, in fact I would say that it's one thing that I personally encourage. No one's gonna help us. So we have to help each other. Yeah. When I say no, one's gonna help us. I mean like systemically no one's gonna help us. Yeah. Gotta count on each other. Um mm-hmm<affirmative> you got
Speaker 3:Some other tips. Yeah. I can throw a couple out there. Hit me with some of those. The first one I will give credit where credit is due here is definitely from Reddit, but this was a game changer for me in my like early post diagnosis, figuring out why I was the way I was and then how to deal with it. The idea is to pay the 80 tax upfront. Mm-hmm<affirmative> so their example is that if you're at the grocery store and you can get ahead of broccoli for a dollar 50 or a bag of broccoli, that's already cut up for two 50 in most of my life, I will go, I know how to food prep. I am a chef. I need to save the money. I'm gonna buy head of broccoli. Mm-hmm<affirmative>. But if I either forget about it or get too exhausted or get too involved in another project to have the time. Yeah. Or if
Speaker 2:You're just having a bad brain
Speaker 3:Day yeah. From having a bad brain day and I can't cut that broccoli up, then, you know, we might traditionally think of the ADHD tax there being the dollar 50 extra that I spend on nothing mm-hmm<affirmative> but their idea is like buy the cut up broccoli bag. Yes. It costs more. But between a dollar 50 and two 50, you're only paying a dollar and it's for broccoli, you will eat instead of a dollar 50 for broccoli. You won't mm-hmm<affirmative> and obviously there is a, a financial component to that, you know, I don't know where everyone else's finances are. So there's something that that's not accessible to do. Oh yeah. Yeah. But if we think about the ADHD tax as like time and energy, as well as money mm-hmm<affirmative> what are the opportunities that you can say I'm gonna put in a little extra time now to
Speaker 2:Make sure it gets done and that I don't have to think about it at all later. Yes. Yeah. Thank you. The immediate high mm-hmm<affirmative> and you can just do something mm-hmm<affirmative> and not have to think about it ever again. Mm-hmm<affirmative> oh
Speaker 3:Yeah. Oh like for me in little ways, I love picking out my clothes the night before. Yeah. Big fan mm-hmm<affirmative> and making systems easier. If you wanna just put a bin right. By your door for all of the that you would normally, you just like discard as you walk home, taking off your coat, taking off your purse, taking off your things like that. Like you might go, oh, that's so messy. I don't want just like a bin of crap, but like that is gonna save you time and energy later when all of those things are in one place for you to pick up when you have the energy too. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then, you know, not in the bathroom trash
Speaker 3:<laugh> I still blame the specific key. That was entirely the key's fault. Well,
Speaker 2:Bad news is that the key can't pay the$400?
Speaker 3:No, you're right. I was trying to think of a way that you could like key somebody's car and then make money off of that. I don't know why I thought that that was an option.
Speaker 2:I'm sure somebody would pay you to do it.
Speaker 3:That's true. You could sell your car keying services. Mm-hmm<affirmative> on like
Speaker 2:The dark web, the
Speaker 3:Dark web<laugh> thanks Terry.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I've been watching a lot of, um, little bag. Okay. Yeah. My loaded silence right now is just me like Florence, pew, frowning. Just,
Speaker 3:Yeah. It's very powerful frown. It's impressive. And kind of uncanny. I
Speaker 2:Look nothing like Florence, pew, but I can nail that frown. And it's the only talent I have. That's not true. That's fault. I know. That's not true. Shut up. It's for the bit. Shut up. What did we talk about? What did we talk about? It's for the bit?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Did I actually get you? No. Okay, good. Not aiming for you. I was aiming for,
Speaker 3:I was committing to the bit. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm<affirmative> I just, I couldn't tell. Cause you, you, you committed a little too hard. So I was like, wait. Sorry. Sorry.<laugh><laugh>
Speaker 3:Okay. It's about the bit. And it's also about compassion. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Here we are. But in terms of like talents that I have mm-hmm<affirmative>,
Speaker 3:It's pretty up there. It's a good one. It's a good one. But yeah. So find ways that if you're gonna pay the ADHD tax paid up front mm-hmm<affirmative> the second one that I have is a little bit more specific, but I have gotten a lot of mileage out of oh, I'm ready subscriptions, right?
Speaker 2:Yes. Oh, so
Speaker 3:Subscriptions are a big challenge for me. Yeah. And for many people in the ADHD community, you start that free trial. You think it's a great deal. And then they just whoop you
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm<affirmative> with a recurring payment Uhhuh.<affirmative> that has no reminder mm-hmm<affirmative> usually,
Speaker 3:And I'm sure they do that on purpose. Yeah. It messes you up cuz it's it's recurring. They just month after month, it's relentless, but most places will cancel your subscription. And if you just stop paying it, like if they can't get the money out of your account mm-hmm<affirmative> so how you may be wondering, do you have a credit card that they can't bill things? Do you just have to max out a credit card? No, no, no, no. My friends you go and get yourself a visa gift card or probably pull one out of your old wallets that your aunt gave you in like 2007 mm-hmm<affirmative> mm-hmm and that's it's a visa card. It's a, it's a credit card. It sure is. But there's no money on it. Or there might be, there might be a couple dollars and I think you can reload them online if it's like, we're gonna ping your account for a dollar easy peasy. You put it on that card. You get your free trial. Oh, sneaky little bastard. It's try and run your subscription fee and well, there's no money in there. So they're not taking anything from you. And they have their own darn processes. If you're not paying for your subscription, you don't even have to remember to cancel it. Cuz they'll cancel it for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Truly life changing. Even going out of your way to just get like a$5 visa gift card. Mm-hmm<affirmative> specifically to use in these sorts of situations. Mm-hmm<affirmative> oh, just you have transcended space and time you are living in like 30, 22. I try I'm so I'm so proud of you<laugh> I'm so proud of your legacy. You're building. This is the mark that I leave on the world. That I'm legacy. What is the legacy you've quoted Hamilton twice in this episode. What was the first time? If you don't know now, you know, that's not Hamilton, like it's in Hamilton, but that's not Hamilton specific. No, I know. But like that phrasing in Tamra of it. Okay. I said it cuz it's words. Okay. And there's a comma between, if you don't know comma now, you know mm-hmm<affirmative> so pause. Mm-hmm<affirmative> I will say I can't defend myself on this sort of Craig Middleton from parks and rec voice that I sort of adopt when we're recording this podcast. What did I say the other day? And you were like, wow, you sound like Craig. And I was like, what? Shut up. No, I don't. I don't remember. Then you repeated it back to me. And I w as like, shut up. No, I don't< laugh> oh, I think I told you I was talking about how I tried. Okay. Not to flex. I did make H olland sauce and made it technically correctly. First time off the bat. I say technically, c uz like I would change the recipe that I used. M m-hmm< affirmative> to like change a little bit of the taste. It was a little, little heavy on the D ejon mm-hmm<affirmative> and y ou can't have that. I did make more than I thought was in there. And so I did start to pour it out onto my bagels and egg s ort o f situation I was going for with like a fun, little like cheap. We have no meat or vegetables, but we do have bagels and eggs. So here's my shot at a eggs Benny. And um, you did commit to that bit. I did pour that holiday sauce, thinking that there was not very much. So I just like turned the blender pretty much upside down. There was probably like 12 ounces of holidays in there. Yeah, no I just had a puddle. I had a pool. I had, I had holidays, soup Uhhuh<affirmative> with bagel and egg in it.<laugh> and not being one to waste things. Mm-hmm<affirmative> intentionally mm-hmm<affirmative> I played the stupid games home. I'm winning a stupid prize. I'm gonna eat a, all those holidays. Mm-hmm<affirmative> and so we're talking about it later and I was like, and I did ju I didn't wanna waste it. So I ate all of that holidays and now my tummy does not feel very good. Yeah. So I get it. I hate it. But I get it.<laugh> I know, I do say though, like that one, like, and now I'm gonna go lie down for 45 minutes. No, an hour. Oh hour. Like it's relatable though. It's relatable. And also the lack of control over volume. It's so relatable. I can't judge you for that. I know you can't. We both have ADHD and auditory processing. Mm-hmm<affirmative> okay. Now's my last tip though. Okay. Do you have anything else? I think I did, but like at the same time, this episode is on a long time.<laugh> and I kinda wanna talk about like literally anything else besides having to spend money that I don't wanna spend. No, that's fair. Should we uh, hop on over to the dope mean trampoline then? Yeah. Sorry. I don't know what just happened. No, I loved that
Speaker 3:Energy. I blacked out again. You were the wild cat<laugh>
Speaker 2:Oh my God. Oh, okay. So if you, if this is your first time, we do have a little segment. We call it dopamine trampoline. Mm-hmm<affirmative> we like hop on over there.
Speaker 3:I don't know how, but that just had the weirdest, like that had to be a catchphrase from some reality TV star in like 2008. It had to be, I don't know. Who are you
Speaker 2:Thinking about? Big bang theory where they say BA no,
Speaker 3:No, I is going on vibes alone.<laugh> okay. That's fair. I'm just like, there is a dude in like floral print
Speaker 2:Shorts. Oh, shorts. Not even a short,
Speaker 3:Short and like a backwards
Speaker 2:Cat. So Billabong. Swimsuit. Yeah. Wait, and this is the mid two thousands or, or early odds. Yeah. So like mm-hmm<affirmative> like a mass trucker hat, but backwards. Mm-hmm<affirmative> okay. Mm-hmm<affirmative> and Billabong shorts. Mm-hmm<affirmative> okay.
Speaker 3:And Billabong flip flops, odd
Speaker 2:And bong flip mm-hmm flops match. And he's like BA boo
Speaker 3:BA like whenever he thinks he says something like really, really clever to women, he he's
Speaker 2:The main character of the live action rocks.
Speaker 3:Cause they probably like Sammy
Speaker 2:<laugh>. Yeah. Anyway, so we do have the dopamine trampoline and we talk about quick, short things that are giving us dopamine at the time of recording. Yeah. Or around the time of recording. So yeah. So
Speaker 3:There deep cuts. Occasionally I'll be like, this was my special interest as a
Speaker 2:Child. Oh yeah. I guess so. Yeah. We, we talk about stuff that has, or does give us dopamine. Yeah. Thinks that we like make a brain go murder mm-hmm<affirmative> or whatever,
Speaker 3:My ADHD interest of the week. Yeah. Or my former ADHD interest of the week slash life obsession, you know? Yeah.
Speaker 2:Sometimes it's a hyper fixation sometimes it's just like, I think that's neat. It's
Speaker 3:The one thing I can focus on this week. Maybe<laugh> yeah.
Speaker 2:It's like, it's the one thing that I had the, the time and energy to Google search mm-hmm<affirmative> to make sure I have my facts straight before we record about
Speaker 3:It. Mm-hmm<affirmative> what is your dopamine trampoline this week? Well,
Speaker 2:I'm gonna pull a big head move. Although this is your first time listening, then ignore this cuz it'll be your first time. I'm gonna talk about letter Kenny again, cuz season 10 did just drop and it is just if there's ever a day where anybody who is on or a part of the production or anything behind letter Kenny, please know genuinely, I love your show so much. It has legitimately saved my life. And I don't mean that in a weird, like high pressure way of like, like I just mean like literally one time I was feeling very suicidal. And so I just put on letter Kenny and calmed down a little bit. Mm-hmm<affirmative> so like thank you genuinely, but also the latest season, which I haven't seen yet. So this is going to be a spoiler free, uh, recap. Don't worry. Yeah. I know if you have heard me talk about letter Kenny before bummer, buckle up. It's happening again? Letter Kenny is a Canadian TV show about a small town called letter Kenny in on Ontario. And that is actually a town, but it, the show is fictional and all the characters are fictional. Um, and it's a very like ALA trailer park boys, uh, like just like they kind of just explore all the realms of like comedy Uhhuh<affirmative> throughout the show Uhhuh<affirmative> there's 10 seasons. Now it's weirdly the most like bro dude show, but also so wholesome and inclusive. I recognize that it's not for everybody. It still has some spicy takes. And some, some episodes that maybe, uh, some might call questionable questionable. Uh, I think when we were discussing this, like some may consider some things problematic, but I feel like it's safer to say it's more in the like off color mm-hmm<affirmative> sort of realm mm-hmm<affirmative> uh, so tread lightly, if that's not your thing, uh, as someone who grew up in Michigan, very close to Ontario, mm-hmm<affirmative> in a farming family, in a farming community who baby<laugh>, it's all, it just all boxes for me really gets the dopamine flow. And it's so funny. The whole, this show is just so intentional and they clearly think either like it's like, they think so hard about certain aspects of the show, but it's so clear that so many of the bits are just effortless<laugh> and it's just funny. Mm-hmm<affirmative> all of the actors have incredibly good comedic timing. There's like all different types of comedy for all sorts of people. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like there's like, you got your really clever niche, like high brow academic humor. You've got like pop culture humor. You've got slapstick, you've got physical comedy. You've got episodes like fart book and seed in one where the whole point is just farting. And it's so funny. I've never seen my dad laugh so hard than when I showed him the far book episode. You would think it was really funny. That's amazing. So admittedly, that's how I grew up. Okay. Like that's so this show is so near and dear to my heart. I've like written about it before. Mm-hmm<affirmative> like it is easily above and beyond. I think it's safe to say at this point it is my favorite TV show. Yeah. I, I don't think I can. I can't deny that at this point. And um, you know, there's 10 seasons out now, 10th season did just drop this past Christmas. Um, and we haven't recorded since then. So I needed to update you all because old baby, somebody, like there was a few seasons in there where obviously I was not a person who thought this or felt this way, but some people thought that maybe they'd, you know, were trying to break out of the formulaic sort of structure and trying to experiment too much. And maybe, you know, it was getting away from the show as it was intended, you know, had things to say on Reddit like that. Um, no offense, if that's your opinion, but like full offense, cuz it's stupid and you're wrong. But um, a lot of people have talked about how the 10th season, this most recent season, it seems like they've figured out how to really bring it back home nail every single bit. And like, it seems like they start, they've sort of worked through the like COVID filming protocols. Mm-hmm<affirmative> cause I know that was actually legitimately a struggle for most TV shows and movies mm-hmm<affirmative> in the past couple of years, surprise mm-hmm<affirmative> so they really have gotten back into a rhythm and a swing of things. And there's an episode where they are per parodying, uh, talk and it's vid VC. And so like lots of different characters are all trying to trying different ways to get famous on vid VC. And when I tell you that this episode has given me like a will to live like nothing else. I swear to God Uhhuh because there's a, a section of characters that are just like hockey bros. Yeah. They are. It is sitting Ontario. I don't know what you want it they're they're
Speaker 3:So hockey they're
Speaker 2:So they're so bro, I love them so much. They're so, oh my God. They're yeah. So some of the hockey bros have become famous on VIOC because they can cause they just pull their pants all the way up their crash<laugh> and start flexing their butt cheeks cuz they have some nice butt cheeks hockey like hockey, hockey players. Hey, if anyone who, Hey I'm single now. So if anyone who is a, a fan of our podcast is a hockey player and please don't, that's not actually an open offer to clarify, but just credit where credits do. We said that a lot this episode, but credit where credit is due hockey players, you're doing, you're doing some work, have the best butts
Speaker 3:Out of such good
Speaker 2:Butts, such good butts. Mm-hmm<affirmative>. And so I do really appreciate that. They were like, you know what? We have these two super hot Chad actors who have these great butts. Let's just give'em a whole episode to show'em off mm-hmm<affirmative> and that's basically it it's just them standing a or rollerblading or like photo bombing, like random places with their butt cheeks, just all the way out mm-hmm<affirmative> and it is,
Speaker 3:I think it's a really special thing when shows just have those episodes that are like, this actor has one random talent that there's no reason to have in the show otherwise, but we're gonna write an episode about it. Yeah. You know, there's shows that are like, we have a Shakespearean actor in the cast let's work that in. Or like we have a really amazing tap dancer. It's like these guys just have great butts. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Great. Like literally like yeah it's. Yeah. This, so that episode specifically of season Ted has been giving me a lot of dopamine mm-hmm<affirmative> also, my cousin did meet a few members of the letter, Kenny cast over the holidays, so wild. Um, and so there is a fair amount of the letter Kenny cast that has seen pictures of me specifically wearing a shore Jersey. And if you're familiar with the show, that's the Jersey that has a giant 69 on the back. Sure. Is.
Speaker 3:I think it is very important to mention that one of their responses was just what a Butte,
Speaker 2:Which you Canadian<laugh>
Speaker 3:Just felt like that was a very important part of that
Speaker 2:Situation. Yeah. It like, it was very sweet. Um, very, very, very panic inducing. Mm-hmm<affirmative> to have my cousin send me photos, blurry, blurry photos and asking to double check. This is where this is where I'm at in life. The people ask me to double check. Are the, is this the letter? Can he cast to which I responded? Holy. Holy. Oh my God,
Speaker 3:What else would you say? Well,
Speaker 2:It's a good thing that I wasn't there in person. Cause my cousin is significantly more chill. And so they like chatted, met whatever, took some pictures together. Mm-hmm<affirmative> while I'm just sitting over in Chicago, like Was like scream. So it's really good that I wasn't the one who met them because I think I probably would've put my pants actually. No, I'd like to give myself more credit. I'm pretty good at interacting with people. Actually probably just a little pee, just a little pee. Like my butt cheeks would definitely be just clenched the whole time. Mm-hmm<affirmative> I would be bracing myself for, I don't know what but something mm-hmm<affirmative> the whole time mm-hmm<affirmative> so anyways, hockey butts, I guess is sort of the, if you wanna talk about like, what is your dopamine trampoline really? Sylvia. What is it? Really? Hockey player butts. That's the episode title.<laugh> nice. What's your DT? Oh that's um, shorthand for dopamine trampoline. I think I'm
Speaker 3:<laugh>
Speaker 2:Yeah. I thought I'd just be helpful.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So like
Speaker 2:Clarify that for everybody, you know, it's so thoughtful. I am so thoughtful. Mm-hmm
Speaker 3:<affirmative> I mean you are, but anyways, I'm sorry. It's the bit, the bit and compassion. There are, there are constantly boring forces.
Speaker 2:It is so hard to do self self to deprecating humor around Jordan. Cuz Jordan won't let it happen. Which is so sweet. Like there are so I'm there's no stop. Stop it. No, don't apologize. You are so kind and so thoughtful and that is something to cherish and love about yourself. Thanks. I love you bro. I love you too, bro. I also love hockey buts. I all also hockey buts, like I made Jordan hasn't seen season 10 yet all the way through or anything mm-hmm<affirmative> but I did sit Jordan down and make her watch just that episode.
Speaker 3:<laugh> that's just you, you have to at least respect him. You
Speaker 2:Gotta like, you gotta
Speaker 3:That's a lot of, if, even if you're not like a butt person mm-hmm<affirmative> like the amount of effort that goes into having a butt like that. The amount of skill it takes to like hone and control a butt like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah. True. Like actual, legitimate talent hand here mm-hmm<affirmative> mm-hmm<affirmative> yeah. Wow. Inspiring
Speaker 3:Hockey butts. Hockey butts. Okay. So what's your DT. Okay. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna spin this around a little bit, cuz my DT is many
Speaker 2:Of you have probably heard of at least a little bit by now the internet saga of JTS, the cat. Ah, I forgot that you were talking about JTS<laugh> I love JTS this little pet. I love
Speaker 3:This cat so much like as mother to a stupid, stupid orange boy, myself. I just feel so deeply delighted, but it's not, it's not just the saga of George's the cat. It's the current state of, of George's power on the internet. So quick recap.<laugh>
Speaker 2:I love, I love, I love George and I love living in Chicago at a time when
Speaker 3:Jots is alive. Oh I sure do too. Oh, so quick recap of this jots situation, there was a, so you take a pair of
Speaker 2:Jeans and you get some scissors.
Speaker 3:There's a whole video. How the
Speaker 2:Whole Brian David Gilbert video about it. Not to tell on ourselves too much, but okay, sorry.
Speaker 3:So no, I, I need a second to recover from that movie<laugh> oh God. So there was a Reddit post that went viral off of the famed and dare I say infamous, am I the thread? That's such a fun place. And the, the question was, am I the for quote and forcing ethnic stereotypes about cats, spoiler alert. This person was not the. The situation was that in their workplace, they had two sweet, wonderful cats who lived there and their names were Jean and JTS mm-hmm<affirmative>, which is delightful in enough itself. Yeah. Someone,
Speaker 2:Someone made some choices and they were the correct
Speaker 3:Ones. They were<laugh> and uh, Jean was a smart, smart lady. And JZ was a sweet and earnest cat who was maybe not so bright. And the person who'd posted this said like, that's fine. We just adapt to it. We just like a door stop and doors that he accidentally closes or like pull him out of the trash can when he falls into it or like let Jean help groom him. Uh, but there was another coworker who felt that this was disrespectful and perpetuating these stereotype, that orange cats, because JTS JTS, isn't a orange cat mm-hmm<affirmative> uh, perpetuating the stereotype that orange cats are stupid by like not giving him the opportunity to learn mm-hmm<affirmative> uh, so this coworker set up some learning opportunities for this cat, um, tried to make those learning opportunities like human team duties and the most delightful and harrowing part of this original jot story was that to help him learn how to groom himself. One of these learning opportunities was that she would spread Mar on this cat mm-hmm
Speaker 2:<affirmative>
Speaker 3:I also can't believe she buttered JTS. Like I
Speaker 2:Don't understand. I don't. I genuinely, I hope that the person in question is doing well.
Speaker 3:It sounds like, it sounds like they are. Yeah. There have been some update posts. It seems like that's been resolved. Yeah. But yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So as understandably delighted as the entire internet was about this, this JSON Jean situation, these can at and, and Jos specifically have become kind of a viral internet phenomenon.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And, and just in case you don't know how the story ended, like they did, they did put a stop to comparing the stereotyping of cat colors to, you know, what humans go through. Yes. With ethnic and racial stereotyping. Yes.
Speaker 3:That was a discussion. And that was very important. They had, yeah. Very
Speaker 2:Big. Uh, what, what's that one? That one back and forth in lake community that everyone likes to point to. Cause it's
Speaker 3:True. Oh that like I can excuse racism, but they draw the line of animal cruelty. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Like I think as too whites, we can con confirm that that is so accurate to white behavior.
Speaker 3:Is it prevalent or prevalent?
Speaker 2:There's there's relevant and prevalent.
Speaker 3:Prevalent. Okay. I, I mixed
Speaker 2:Those up. I think they're, I don't know what a lot of words mean. I'm just very good at context clues.
Speaker 3:That's fair. I don't remember what I was saying that word about anyways so we can move on. Yeah. Yes. They did resolve
Speaker 2:That. So, so they did, they did stop that. Yes. Like in case anyone is like, wait a minute, wait a minute. Is we just gonna gloss over it? They didn't. Don't worry. Mm-hmm<affirmative>
Speaker 3:The very important update. Thank you.<affirmative> with this. Sorry. It's its it's so ridiculous. No, it's
Speaker 2:So absurd. Like all of it. Yeah. Oh right. Oh. Also worth noting because all of this margarine got put on this little dumb orange boy. It, and he still wasn't grooming himself. Jean, the other cat who would help groom him. Mm-hmm<affirmative> was getting tummy aches.
Speaker 3:Yeah. But she's better now. That's also better an important, they did the story. They did stop buttering shorts.<laugh> Oh, I'm just seeing the Halloween costumes now of people in denim, JTS with just like and butter mm-hmm<affirmative> so the part of the story that is my dopamine trampoline is not the original Redd zones. JT saga. It is what is happening with J's newfound internet fame and what they are sharing and supporting with the new internet. Fame is workplace rights. Yeah. Basically their entire brand now is just an incredibly stupid orange cat supporting unions. Yeah. I think that the Teamsters union like sent him a shirt and just they're they're using their platform to promote unionization and like workplace rights and workplace dignity. Mm-hmm<affirmative> from a cat. Oh yeah. No
Speaker 2:Like, which is extra powerful. Yeah. No, this, this little dumb orange cat is like doing a lot for doing more for the proletariat than like the past all administrations
Speaker 3:<laugh> yeah. Except maybe like Wagner himself of the Wagner act. Yeah.<laugh>
Speaker 2:Which is also a DT. Yes. From a
Speaker 3:Past episode. Yes it is.
Speaker 2:We love unions here.
Speaker 3:We do. Cause it's a union household. Neither of us are actually in unions, but we support
Speaker 2:Them. Yeah. Not like for lack of, we just don't work in places that
Speaker 3:Are unionized. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways. Yeah. My favorite of these interactions, all of them bring me joy.<affirmative> mm-hmm<affirmative> all of them delight me. All of them make me feel good about somebody using their power for good mm-hmm<affirmative> but for those of you who live in Chicago and have not heard our dear mayor a has been in a little bit of a pickle with our teachers union and kind of upset with them, for wanting to not die in their job. Mm-hmm<affirmative>
Speaker 2:Oh. And also upset for prioritizing the actual health of students. How dare they? How
Speaker 3:Dare they?
Speaker 2:Uh, so they, which like on that note, CTU,
Speaker 3:Like we love you. We love, we genuinely love you. No caveats to that. Yeah.
Speaker 2:No, no caveat. The Chicago teacher's union. I'm in love with
Speaker 3:You. Yeah. And
Speaker 2:In a weird way. Mm-hmm<affirmative>
Speaker 3:I desire you.
Speaker 2:<laugh> the boy<laugh>
Speaker 3:nailed it, dude. Cat. it. Hey, you so much.
Speaker 2:Oh God. I, I don't know how we went from talking about cute orange cat to like, I wanna union<laugh> but we did
Speaker 3:Here we are. Yeah. Like,
Speaker 2:Like not much gets me hornier than workers' rights though. That's so valid. Is there a sexuality for that? What's that called?<laugh> fellow community. Help me. What, what do I am I,
Speaker 3:What do, am I, what do, am I,
Speaker 2:What am I do? I am only sexually attracted. Okay.
Speaker 3:The concept
Speaker 2:Of unions. I'm like
Speaker 3:Concept of organized labor.
Speaker 2:No, like I'm only horny for like communal or I'm a poly stop. Stop it. Stop it. Okay. Sorry. So our mayor is quite at odds with the Chicago teachers union mm-hmm<affirmative>
Speaker 3:They do did come to an agreement recently. I believe
Speaker 2:An agreement is a word for it.
Speaker 3:Um, but that's not the important part of the story. The important part of the story is that our, our dear mayor Lori Lightfoot got COVID<laugh>
Speaker 2:Sorry.<laugh> obviously this, this pandemic has taken a lot from everybody, including several actual human lives. Mm-hmm<affirmative> so I'm not trying to make light of that,
Speaker 3:But the irony of the fact that she, she not only had the opportunity to, but publicly announced immediately after absolutely waging war against the idea that anybody else could do. The, the same thing, uh, worked from home. Cuz she had COVID mm-hmm
Speaker 2:<affirmative> family. She as we're recording, she has COVID. She is working from home Uhhuh<affirmative>
Speaker 3:After really, really having some strong feelings. Mm-hmm<affirmative> about teachers doing the same thing. Mm-hmm<affirmative> and um, I, I will say I am not a teacher nor do I have kids. So I'm, I'm not gonna comment on that situation myself. I will,
Speaker 2:But that's just cause I'm an opinionated, no amount of whatever sort of sadness that being at home in learning from like no amount of like loneliness that comes from that will top the fact that if they go to school in person, they could die or
Speaker 3:Kill their teachers. That's also not a fun one to live with. No
Speaker 2:It's not. And everybody deserves to be safe mm-hmm<affirmative> and alive mm-hmm<affirmative>. And so God forbid the Chicago teachers union try to fight for the actual literal lives of their teachers and the students mm-hmm<affirmative> and God forbid that parents have to deal with the children that they willingly chose to have mm-hmm<affirmative> so anyways, I don't have kids. I'm not a teacher, but I have opinions<laugh> but that it's just an opinion.
Speaker 3:I'm just gonna say the, the irony mm-hmm<affirmative> of hit is really something.
Speaker 2:Yeah. The irony of releasing several incredibly rudely worded statements to the Chicago teachers union mm-hmm<affirmative> and verbatim saying you are not listening. Not,
Speaker 3:Not super kind. No, not at all. Not super understand, but the, the delightful thing about this is that this internet famous orange cat, that is not Garfield. I realize, I say that we might have lost enough context. The thing that's just delightful to me is that shorts, the cat got to point out the irony and called out the mayor of one of the largest cities in the, the United States. Mm-hmm<affirmative> for this to quite a lot of attention. And there's just so many things that had to come together for that to happen. Mm-hmm<affirmative> that? I'm just thankful for jots. Yeah. The
Speaker 2:End. Yes. Amazing. Amazing. Internet meme. Cat takes down. Cartoonishly villainous mayor in LA single Twitter friend. Mm-hmm<affirmative> dopamine
Speaker 3:Skyrockets. Yeah. You go JTS. You go
Speaker 2:JTS. You go. This is, I mean, I love letter kitty, but like this is also my DT. We're all happy for JTS. Yeah. I mean, and I think we had, we're very on the same wavelength with our DTS. We're like yeah. Hockey butts. And I'm like, yeah, jots. Like doesn't
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Speaker 4:Hockey, hockey do.
